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dick lugar does that, and i think he's made it clear. there'so towbt in the mind of anybody -- there's no doubt in the mientdz of anybody on our side of the aisle that dick lugar is a conservative. and his votes through the years have shown that. he is a proud republican. but i think probably because he served as a mor before he came here, he applied what we call the laguardia rule to foreign policy, which is the rule that laguardia applied to doing things in new york. it didn't matter, you know, whether you were a republican or democrat as long as the streets got clean, the potholes got filled and they didn't have any labels on them. and that's pretty much the way the foreign policy out to be. we used to say, politics ends at the water's edge. only in the last years here in the senate have i seen a complete diversion from that, where unfortunately, as has been true onoth sides, that politics has entered into the choices people have made with respect to major issues of conflict, potential war and peace, and interests of the security of o
dick lugar does that, and i think he's made it clear. there'so towbt in the mind of anybody -- there's no doubt in the mientdz of anybody on our side of the aisle that dick lugar is a conservative. and his votes through the years have shown that. he is a proud republican. but i think probably because he served as a mor before he came here, he applied what we call the laguardia rule to foreign policy, which is the rule that laguardia applied to doing things in new york. it didn't matter, you...
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>> i would say dick lugar. >> yeah. it's obviously the easier answer, but i have a point i want to make there. >> the tea party, there's been a lot of speculation this movement is burning itself out, that it may have burned itself out. one of the things you hear from politicians that do a lot of town halls is they don't see the tea party guys popping up as much anymore. >> not quite as well organized. >> on the other hand, they were able to take out bob bennett in utah during the last cycle. dick lugar is top target this time around. this would be a big win for them. >> steve, is dick lugar losing because he's not conservative enough or will he lose this primary because he didn't know what address was on his -- >> the answer is yes. both. >> i think he survives if it wasn't for this issue. >> the tea party may be less strong than two years ago but it forced orrin hatch into a primary and it looks like it's on the verge of taking out dick lugar. he lost touch with the folks in indiana when his opponent announced most of
>> i would say dick lugar. >> yeah. it's obviously the easier answer, but i have a point i want to make there. >> the tea party, there's been a lot of speculation this movement is burning itself out, that it may have burned itself out. one of the things you hear from politicians that do a lot of town halls is they don't see the tea party guys popping up as much anymore. >> not quite as well organized. >> on the other hand, they were able to take out bob bennett in...
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he called it a tragedy, the defeat of dick lugar. joining me now, joe lieberman, another colleague of senator lugar's. you're an independent. you've had your own difficulties within your party. >> yes. >> you must be relating, empathizing with what happened to senator lugar. some are saying it's his own fault, he didn't have a residence, a legal residence. he let that become an issue. it's hard not to recall, though, his decades of service in foreign relations. >> yeah. most of all, i think we should celebrate and honor the service of dick lugar. he was a real internationalist, a thoughtful internationalist, and really rose above partisanship when he was involved in foreign policy. so, defeat is painful for any of us in this profession, but i think dick lugar should be comforted with the confidence that he built a tremendous legacy of service and accomplishment over the years. look, there's a program called the nunn/lugar program. sam nunn and dick lugar worked together after the end of the soviet union, it's a greater program, to su
he called it a tragedy, the defeat of dick lugar. joining me now, joe lieberman, another colleague of senator lugar's. you're an independent. you've had your own difficulties within your party. >> yes. >> you must be relating, empathizing with what happened to senator lugar. some are saying it's his own fault, he didn't have a residence, a legal residence. he let that become an issue. it's hard not to recall, though, his decades of service in foreign relations. >> yeah. most...
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dick lugar does that, and i think he's made it clear. there's no towbt in the mind of anybody -- there's no doubt in the mientdz of anybody on our side of the aisle that dick lugar is a conservative. and his votes through the years have shown that. he is a proud republican. but i think probably because he served as a mayor before he came here, he applied what we call the laguardia rule to foreign policy, which is the rule that laguardia applied to doing things in new york. it didn't matter, you know, whether you were a republican or democrat as long as the streets got clean, the potholes got filled and they didn't have any labels on them. and that's pretty much the way the foreign policy out to be. we used to say, politics ends at the water's edge. only in the last years here in the senate have i seen a complete diversion from that, where unfortunately, as has been true on both sides, that politics has entered into the choices people have made with respect to major issues of conflict, potential war and peace, and interests of the securit
dick lugar does that, and i think he's made it clear. there's no towbt in the mind of anybody -- there's no doubt in the mientdz of anybody on our side of the aisle that dick lugar is a conservative. and his votes through the years have shown that. he is a proud republican. but i think probably because he served as a mayor before he came here, he applied what we call the laguardia rule to foreign policy, which is the rule that laguardia applied to doing things in new york. it didn't matter, you...
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that cost dick lugar. what does that tell us about the transactional value or lack of value with bipartisanship? >> well, it's funny. because mourdock, who richard -- mourdock now the nominee, he said that he actually campaigned against bipartisanship. he said i think it's a problem with washington is there's too much bipartisanship. which is sort of funny if you spend time in washington. you never -- you don't really hear that complaint very often. and he said his definition of bipartisanship is democrats agreeing with republicans. so he is sort of campaigning at the force of partisanship in washington and saying he will come here and be a -- tried and true conservative beliefs. gwen: he has to survive the general election before that happens. he's running against a democrat a. three-term congressman named joe donnellly. how is that shaping up? is he going to be easier -- is it going to be an easier shot for democrats because not running against lugar? >> if lugar was the nominee the state would have stay
that cost dick lugar. what does that tell us about the transactional value or lack of value with bipartisanship? >> well, it's funny. because mourdock, who richard -- mourdock now the nominee, he said that he actually campaigned against bipartisanship. he said i think it's a problem with washington is there's too much bipartisanship. which is sort of funny if you spend time in washington. you never -- you don't really hear that complaint very often. and he said his definition of...
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as you mentioned, dick lugar struggled with the fact he had residency issues. did he actually have an address in indiana? never a great thing when you're running. he also had to defend lots of votes in a republican primary. not ideal. things like voting for t.a.r.p. some of his votes on judges. just yesterday, he was out on the campaign trail defending earmarks. when you think earmarks are a good or bad thing the government does, they're not popular among the average voter at this point. so i think in some ways, dick lugar, it is a little bit self-inflicted because i know that people sat down with him and said 16 months ago this is going to be a tough race. you need to do this, this, and this in order to win it. i think he ultimately decided he wasn't comfortable changing kind of the core of who he had been in the senate. admirable, but likely to cause him to lose tonight. >> and lose to the state treasurer, richard mourdock, who is not just a tea party candidate. he's also a well-known hoosier figure. >> right. he's a state-wide elected official, number one. t
as you mentioned, dick lugar struggled with the fact he had residency issues. did he actually have an address in indiana? never a great thing when you're running. he also had to defend lots of votes in a republican primary. not ideal. things like voting for t.a.r.p. some of his votes on judges. just yesterday, he was out on the campaign trail defending earmarks. when you think earmarks are a good or bad thing the government does, they're not popular among the average voter at this point. so i...
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dick lugar has lost his senate seat after 36 years. voters were out in force in the state of north carolina where they overwhelmingly approved an amendment that bans same-sex marriage in that state. at mendment passed with 61% of the vote making north carolina the 30th state now in the country to support a constitutional privilege saying marriage is between one 3457b and one woman. they say it could strain custody battles for couples who are married out of wedlock. white house press secretary said president obama's views of the issue are, quote, evolving. poses a unique political challenge for the president particularly now when you see the vote in north carolina, a state the president narrowly won over senator john mccain won in 2008 and needs this time around. despite last night's vote, new national polling suggested growing acceptance of same-sex marriage nationally. the latest gallup poll says same sex couples should be allowed to wed, that's 50%. 48% say they oppose same-sex marriage. that's down 20 points from the mid '90s. advoc
dick lugar has lost his senate seat after 36 years. voters were out in force in the state of north carolina where they overwhelmingly approved an amendment that bans same-sex marriage in that state. at mendment passed with 61% of the vote making north carolina the 30th state now in the country to support a constitutional privilege saying marriage is between one 3457b and one woman. they say it could strain custody battles for couples who are married out of wedlock. white house press secretary...
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i reached out to senator dick lugar to help lock down weapons. we have to lead the entire world to reduce that threat. >> for democratic candidate saying and showing that you crossed partisan lines to work on a substantive issue of policy, that's worth bragging about. putting that in a campaign ad as a democrat. you might win a red state like indiana. if you are a republican, even being seen as on the receiving end of bipartisan out reach as you can see from tonight's result, that is political suicide. the successful primary challenger to senator lugar today has an 0-3 record running for congress. he says that social security and medicare are unconstitutional. he'll be off the republican side and this man richard mourdock is replacing them. they are excited to turn the seat blue now that they will no longer have to run against a respective mainstream conservative who can win by over 30 points every time like dick lugar. democrats say richard as this year's ken buck. someone who the tea party love who is the state will be horrified by come time fo
i reached out to senator dick lugar to help lock down weapons. we have to lead the entire world to reduce that threat. >> for democratic candidate saying and showing that you crossed partisan lines to work on a substantive issue of policy, that's worth bragging about. putting that in a campaign ad as a democrat. you might win a red state like indiana. if you are a republican, even being seen as on the receiving end of bipartisan out reach as you can see from tonight's result, that is...
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senators that they didn't like and dick lugar and a hereditary or appointed house of lords is pretty offensive to those of us who believe in democracy and it's a good thing the queen is calling for at least an end to that practice there but here because of the supreme court the real overlords of our nation the supreme court and their citizens united decision wall street banks theories can now push their own candidates and the corporate media doesn't even pointed out they just call this guy a tea party they didn't call him an agent of the banks the queen wants to amend the way the government works in the u.k. we need to do the same here and end the crazy idea that's been promoted exclusively by the supreme court the corporations are people and money is not property but instead his speech go to move to amend to work to learn what you can do. after the break corporate america has a new plan to take over every. aspect of your life from the education your schools to the transportation in your town just how dangerous is this new drive to privatized everything in america. the news today vio
senators that they didn't like and dick lugar and a hereditary or appointed house of lords is pretty offensive to those of us who believe in democracy and it's a good thing the queen is calling for at least an end to that practice there but here because of the supreme court the real overlords of our nation the supreme court and their citizens united decision wall street banks theories can now push their own candidates and the corporate media doesn't even pointed out they just call this guy a...
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lugar got taken out by the banks yesterday. no no no i mean this is not something to laugh at you know the money that funded the so-called tea party guy it was all for the wall street banks because dick lugar voted against that credit card fee cap and it cost wall street sixteen billion dollars they were seriously pissed off and they took that man out and they're bragging about it so any yeah i've said it before i think money is speech i think this is a situation where money is speech do we always like when people are pretty mad we like when people find pockets to actually like a lot of not just because it's speech doesn't mean i always agree with the speech it doesn't mean it's always a good thing but it is speech and therefore the what's right what's going to property people are going to prevail the more people involved are to be able to see through it if it's some smokescreen of big corporate interests you've got to give people more credit just because there's a lot of money involved just as a message is coming at you a lot
lugar got taken out by the banks yesterday. no no no i mean this is not something to laugh at you know the money that funded the so-called tea party guy it was all for the wall street banks because dick lugar voted against that credit card fee cap and it cost wall street sixteen billion dollars they were seriously pissed off and they took that man out and they're bragging about it so any yeah i've said it before i think money is speech i think this is a situation where money is speech do we...
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the republican senator dick lugar to pass a law. >> what i did was reach out to senator dick lugar. >> i'm interesting in figuring out my foreign policy i associate myself with joe biden or with dick lugar. >> all right. that should give you a sense of how pleasant that campaign was although i'm sure some media companies made money in indiana in the past month. out of state donors backing both candidates have poured $4 million into the senate primary race. the national antitax group club for growth alone spent $1.7 million. lugar says if he loses negative campaign will be why. it is not just in indiana. across the country centers for republicans are facing tough challenges. republican senator olympia snowe retiring and lieberman. john avalon is with us, james carville. a late night. i got a little red light going off and something coming from your camp. let me start with you. this is pretty tragic that we have gotten to this point where working together is a negative thing. that attack add was rather grim. >> that attack add expresses what is going on right now. this is why this pri
the republican senator dick lugar to pass a law. >> what i did was reach out to senator dick lugar. >> i'm interesting in figuring out my foreign policy i associate myself with joe biden or with dick lugar. >> all right. that should give you a sense of how pleasant that campaign was although i'm sure some media companies made money in indiana in the past month. out of state donors backing both candidates have poured $4 million into the senate primary race. the national antitax...
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lugar was being a little defensive. but i also think that dick lugar's time was up. anybody could have beaten him with a really smart campaign. he hadn't lived in the state since the late '70s. one thing sarah said, i think this language is resonating with people. all we have to do is look at the house tea party people who said -- >> it resonates in primaries. we don't know if it's going to resonate in a presidential year. >> but they won 40 seats in the house. >> in a med term election. >> but there is an angry electorate. >> that brings me to wisconsin. we always think we live in the most historic time at any point in time. i remember the atmosphere during the impeeachment. it was toxic. >> i think there's been such a shift in how people are viewing washington that they want cowboys to go into washington to take washington back. >> there is a zero sum game. i feel like i see it now. >> but they're psychotic on it in a way because they want cowboys to come in but they also want stuff to get done. so congress' approval rating is in the single digits. all these people
lugar was being a little defensive. but i also think that dick lugar's time was up. anybody could have beaten him with a really smart campaign. he hadn't lived in the state since the late '70s. one thing sarah said, i think this language is resonating with people. all we have to do is look at the house tea party people who said -- >> it resonates in primaries. we don't know if it's going to resonate in a presidential year. >> but they won 40 seats in the house. >> in a med...
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senate after dick lugar, after the break. trivia time we ask, who's the only republican to run for the senate in 2006? who did not have an official democrating opponent. the answer, indiana senator richard lugar. he won that year with 87% of the vote. >>> be right back. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on money nbc. . with better car replacement, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. liberty mutual auto insurance. and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios. >>> i can't help but note the irony that i'm the d.c. insider running against someone who's been in washington for 36 years. that's not a message that's being sold very well here in indiana. but to the point, am i reflecting some special interest group around the country? yeah, i probably am and they're called conservatives. >> that was indiana sena
senate after dick lugar, after the break. trivia time we ask, who's the only republican to run for the senate in 2006? who did not have an official democrating opponent. the answer, indiana senator richard lugar. he won that year with 87% of the vote. >>> be right back. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on money nbc. . with better car replacement, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. liberty mutual auto insurance. and who...
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but dick lugar will not be on the ballot this fall. instead, the republican line will be held down by a hard-core tea party challenger who beat dick lugar in the primary. he's a guy who already ran for congress three times. he has lost three times. so now dick lugar's reliably 100% definitely republican seat might not actually turn blue. are we watching a replay of the christine o'donnell, ken buck, sharron angle, great republican botch of 2010? is this the sequel? we won't know until election night in november, but we'll know a little bit more in a few days. on friday, the choices are the moderate well-knowned former congress manning chris shays or wrestling executive linda mcmahon, who won the nomination in 2010 and then spent $50 million of her own money, trying to win a senate seat in 2010 and she lost, even in that super republican year. so we will see if connecticut keeps up the trend of what dick lugar is calling the purification process in these republican primaries. i think it's a process that must feel great to the republican
but dick lugar will not be on the ballot this fall. instead, the republican line will be held down by a hard-core tea party challenger who beat dick lugar in the primary. he's a guy who already ran for congress three times. he has lost three times. so now dick lugar's reliably 100% definitely republican seat might not actually turn blue. are we watching a replay of the christine o'donnell, ken buck, sharron angle, great republican botch of 2010? is this the sequel? we won't know until election...
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tea party challenger richard mourdock ousted senator dick lugar in last night's primary after 36 years in office. he grated mourdock but offered an ominous prediction for congress, writing "what mourdock has promised in this campaign is reflexible votes for a rejectionist orthodoxy and rigid opposition to the actions and proposals of the other party. if that attitude prevails in american politics, our government will remain mired in the dysfunction we have witnessed during the last several years, and i believe that if this attitude expands in the republican party, we will be relegated to minority status." mourdock responded to this, this morning on "the daily rundown." >> what i've said is i certainly think that bipartisanship ought to consist of democrats coming to the republican point of view. >> well, there's that. joining us now from washington is former rnc chair and msnbc political analyst, the notorious michael steele. chairman steele, is this win, is mourdock's win a good thing for the republican party? >> well, yeah. i mean, i think it's -- you know, every win is, you know, a
tea party challenger richard mourdock ousted senator dick lugar in last night's primary after 36 years in office. he grated mourdock but offered an ominous prediction for congress, writing "what mourdock has promised in this campaign is reflexible votes for a rejectionist orthodoxy and rigid opposition to the actions and proposals of the other party. if that attitude prevails in american politics, our government will remain mired in the dysfunction we have witnessed during the last several...
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lugar and mourdach. where dick lugar is on his heels now over being bipartisan. he has a 77% conservative voting record. i grew up with two senator, one of the right and one of the left. i am not a republican. i don't live there but my family lives this. and i grew up with dick lugar as my state senator. to see him on his heels -- what we want in washington is for the parties to get along to solve the major problems. and for the tea party and mr. mourdach, putting him on his back, trying to cross the aisle -- >> what you are saying is being bipartisan has helped. but what has happened in washington that is what the americans are looking at. the situation is worse. >> it's that difference in the tea party and the republicans if you don't vote with you, if you don't have purity, we want you out. >> listen, the conservatives will be -- >> and the state, the guy that is -- >> i would love to bring george in here for one second. what is your take? you know dick lugar and you probably know mr. mourdach as well. >> i know them both. there comes a point where people brin
lugar and mourdach. where dick lugar is on his heels now over being bipartisan. he has a 77% conservative voting record. i grew up with two senator, one of the right and one of the left. i am not a republican. i don't live there but my family lives this. and i grew up with dick lugar as my state senator. to see him on his heels -- what we want in washington is for the parties to get along to solve the major problems. and for the tea party and mr. mourdach, putting him on his back, trying to...
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dick lugar is 20 points ahead. this is suicidal. the irony is the great tactician and strategist for the republicans wasn't, hasn't been eric cantor. it's mitch mcconnell. he's embraced this tea party spirit, and it will deny him, if this continues this way, it will deny him the senate majority position. indiana should not be in the democrat's camp. it likely will be. >> it's the delaware race. christine o'donnell being championed -- >> i would say it's closer to pennsylvania. this is still a very winnable race for the republicans. i think republicans look at example of pennsylvania and they say, we could have kept spector. we could have kept the seat in our hands, but we'd have spector. we took a chance. it was a closer race than. would have been. now we have a guy who's going to vote with us on everything. i think they look at indiana and say the same thing. it's not so much institutional about senate and the congress. it's of the power of the base of each party to insist on absolute purity in these primaries. you look at lugar an
dick lugar is 20 points ahead. this is suicidal. the irony is the great tactician and strategist for the republicans wasn't, hasn't been eric cantor. it's mitch mcconnell. he's embraced this tea party spirit, and it will deny him, if this continues this way, it will deny him the senate majority position. indiana should not be in the democrat's camp. it likely will be. >> it's the delaware race. christine o'donnell being championed -- >> i would say it's closer to pennsylvania. this...
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lugar. he said reagan wouldn't identify with this party as a streak of intolerance and the republican party that scares people. ronald reagan was never driven by ideological. he wanted limited government but he used it many times and he would work with the other party now. he talks about it just -- republican party is having difficulty facing up to the fact if you look at what happened during the first eight years of the century, it was under republican direction. republican leadership got us into this mess. thank you. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ ♪ let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> stephanie: he said the same thing we've said. they wouldn't have nixon or eisenhower. >> they wouldn't have him. >> stephanie: by the way the obama campaign not mincing their tweets. he tweeted yesterday i'll stop blaming bush when mitt romney wants to stop returning to his failed policies. they also tweeted about romney, load up a steel mill with debt bankrupt and walk away with millions. [ applause ] the
lugar. he said reagan wouldn't identify with this party as a streak of intolerance and the republican party that scares people. ronald reagan was never driven by ideological. he wanted limited government but he used it many times and he would work with the other party now. he talks about it just -- republican party is having difficulty facing up to the fact if you look at what happened during the first eight years of the century, it was under republican direction. republican leadership got us...
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lugar because he's president obama people are upset at dick lugar because of the way he's voted the past and he voted for all these supported as a bail out the auto industry he he supported the start nuclear treaty and he supported the obama supreme court nominees who were moderates want to go back to your original question about is there room for moderate republicans in what we're seeing right now with republicans in you know in state and nationwide you're just seeing this sort of regression. backwards when it comes to women's rights when it comes to marriage equality when it comes to the economy it's all austerity it's all you know shrinking government like drowning it in a bathtub. i mean and this is what you know this is the base of the republican party this is what the base i guess wants now is this sort of tea party like figure and i think you can see that really demonstrated with mitt romney and the way he flip flopped on so many issues to appear. more you know right wing to appear more conservative or you know turn himself into a pretzel. is mitt romney going to be able to t
lugar because he's president obama people are upset at dick lugar because of the way he's voted the past and he voted for all these supported as a bail out the auto industry he he supported the start nuclear treaty and he supported the obama supreme court nominees who were moderates want to go back to your original question about is there room for moderate republicans in what we're seeing right now with republicans in you know in state and nationwide you're just seeing this sort of regression....
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predicts dick lugar will lose the republic primary in the state of indiana. he was battling the state treasurer named richard murdock who has strong support from the tea party. democrats had earlier promised if senator lugar loses they will fight hard for his seat in the general election. dick lugar has been in the senate for nearly 36 years and will return to the senate no more. last person anybody saw with natalee holloway could stand. indicted joran van der sloot for fire fraud and extortion. is he accused of promising to tell natalee holloway's mother where natalie's remains are in exchange for payment of $25,000. investigators say she gave and he took the money but he ran off to peru. that's where joran van der sloot is currently behind bars for murdering this 21-year-old woman. her body turned up in his hotel room five day five years to the day after natalee holloway disappeared. steve harrigan in our florida newsroom tonight. why is joran van der sloot fighting extradition to the united states, steve? shepard joran van der sloot's attorney is depressed
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mourdock. >> jon: no, not dick lugar! not our most porn-named senator! (laughter) other than senator johnny giantballs. (laughter) after only 36 years in the senate? he was only 12 years away from getting something done. (laughter) well, congress has been somethat that tphapbt. maybe this new guy will get things done. >> i have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of republicandemocrats coming te republican point of view. >> jon: wow, completely redefining the meaning of words. (laughter) you're going do great in the senate. we'll be right bacc (cheers and applause). >> jon: welcome back. so we talked about the president earlier. and along with the same-sex marriage announcement you may have heard president obama has a new lady in his life and she... i should explain. it's call "the life of julia" and it's a new web ad explaining how the average american woman might benefit from obama's policies. from some affordable student loans to government health insurance to other... oh, my god! look out for the bus!
mourdock. >> jon: no, not dick lugar! not our most porn-named senator! (laughter) other than senator johnny giantballs. (laughter) after only 36 years in the senate? he was only 12 years away from getting something done. (laughter) well, congress has been somethat that tphapbt. maybe this new guy will get things done. >> i have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of republicandemocrats coming te republican point of view. >> jon: wow, completely redefining the...
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>> again, dick lugar is not a moderate. he say pretty conservative guy. has been for the bulk of his career. and murdock is very, very conservative. if you are a gop senator, if you're running in the senate now, and you show any hibnts of moderation or cooperation, you're probably toast. i think that's the new reality of politics. and that's different. we saw this in 2010. we have seen it in 2012. we didn't used to see that. the senate used to produce a lot of folks in the middle or a lot of folks like dick lugar who want to compromise. folks like murdock come in, just like johnson did in wisconsin, and they are not here to compromise. they are here to push for a much smaller government. they don't care if they get compromised because they feel like they are there because the tea party, their base, wants a radically different government than the one we have. they are very clear with voters about what they want, and it's much different than dick lugar and creates a much different institution. congress is going to become more polarized, not less polarized.
>> again, dick lugar is not a moderate. he say pretty conservative guy. has been for the bulk of his career. and murdock is very, very conservative. if you are a gop senator, if you're running in the senate now, and you show any hibnts of moderation or cooperation, you're probably toast. i think that's the new reality of politics. and that's different. we saw this in 2010. we have seen it in 2012. we didn't used to see that. the senate used to produce a lot of folks in the middle or a lot...
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and i grew up with dick lugar has the senator. what we want in washington is for the parties to get along to solve the major problems. and for the tea party and mr. mourdach, trying to cross the aisle, that is -- >> what you are saying is being bipartisan has helped. but what has happened in washington that is what the americans are looking at. the situation is worse. >> it's that difference in the tea party and the republicans f you don't vote with you, if you don't have fury, we want you out. >> listen, the conservatives will be -- >> and the state, the guy that is -- >> i would love to bring george in here for one second. what is your take. you know dick lug interyou probably no mr. mourdach as will. >> i know them both. there is a point where people bring out a powerful message in politics, it's time for a change. he theyed with it for 36 years and i don't think we should commit sociology here when people in the country said enough, let's try someone new. >> i do want to talk about the john edwards case. tavis, you have been w
and i grew up with dick lugar has the senator. what we want in washington is for the parties to get along to solve the major problems. and for the tea party and mr. mourdach, trying to cross the aisle, that is -- >> what you are saying is being bipartisan has helped. but what has happened in washington that is what the americans are looking at. the situation is worse. >> it's that difference in the tea party and the republicans f you don't vote with you, if you don't have fury, we...